On this episode of Talking Metal, Mark Strigl interviews Tobias Forge and Joel Stroetzel at Heavy Montreal 2019 on July 27, 2019.  Emily is the co-host.

The brief chat with Tobias of Ghost starts at the 9-minute mark of this episode.   Topics include playing smaller cities and towns in North America, Iron Maiden, coming out as Tobias, Dr. Mike Freedman’s interview with him, Satanism, Aleister Crowley, Lovecraft, Anton LaVey, Necronomicon, and more.

The interview with Joel of Killswitch Engage starts at 22:30 into the podcast.  Topics include the new album Atonement, Howard Jones, Chuck Billy, The End of Heartbreak album, 20 years of Killswitch, his dogs, Gargantua Soul, Heavy Montreal, his gear, Andy Sneap and more.

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